Comments on: Disabling My Subaru’s Hill Holder Clutch http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/ The irascible ramblings of some guy named Chad Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Both front calipers keep seizing even after replacement - Page 4 - Subaru Outback - Subaru Outback Forums http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-25603 Both front calipers keep seizing even after replacement - Page 4 - Subaru Outback - Subaru Outback Forums Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:17:13 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-25603 [...] you never know This link is from a fellow with a 2005 Forester. http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/ It`s a much better description how to eliminate the device than I was able to offer [...] [...] you never know This link is from a fellow with a 2005 Forester. http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/ It`s a much better description how to eliminate the device than I was able to offer [...]

]]> By: Albert Johnson http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-25217 Albert Johnson Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:08:37 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-25217 The hill-holder is touchy if not adjusted properly, and probably needs to be readjusted once in the life of a clutch. There was good info on adjusting it in Haynes and Alldata manuals. On my '90 Legacy it was OK, after some years it got touchy but I used the info in the Haynes to adjust it. It eventually quit; I replaced it (it did not jam, it quit holding). Installing the new one was not too bad but adjusting it required, ahem, finesse. Does not surprise me that some technicians would rather not. Basically you get somewhere that you can run it (a parking lot on a Sunday morning that has a rise steep enough to engage it and no one around) and once you're familiar with the adjusting screw (it's in the service manual) you can turn the adjusting screw in/out to get the behavior you need. It'll only take 5 minutes or so to get it right. The hill-holder is touchy if not adjusted properly, and probably needs to be readjusted once in the life of a clutch. There was good info on adjusting it in Haynes and Alldata manuals. On my ’90 Legacy it was OK, after some years it got touchy but I used the info in the Haynes to adjust it. It eventually quit; I replaced it (it did not jam, it quit holding).

Installing the new one was not too bad but adjusting it required, ahem, finesse. Does not surprise me that some technicians would rather not. Basically you get somewhere that you can run it (a parking lot on a Sunday morning that has a rise steep enough to engage it and no one around) and once you’re familiar with the adjusting screw (it’s in the service manual) you can turn the adjusting screw in/out to get the behavior you need. It’ll only take 5 minutes or so to get it right.

]]> By: Dom http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-22324 Dom Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:53:06 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-22324 LEGEND!! After 7 years of the Hill holder engaging only if you really gave the brake a good shove & it worked great... AKA only if you really wanted it too. Then I has a new clutch in (by the dealer) & couldnt understand why i couldnt pull off... park...drive without kangarooing. Pull a trailer...dont go there. The dealer adjusted it "as much as they could" i think i'll give your technique a go. Thanks for letting me know i am not alone. dom LEGEND!! After 7 years of the Hill holder engaging only if you really gave the brake a good shove & it worked great… AKA only if you really wanted it too. Then I has a new clutch in (by the dealer) & couldnt understand why i couldnt pull off… park…drive without kangarooing. Pull a trailer…dont go there. The dealer adjusted it “as much as they could” i think i’ll give your technique a go.

Thanks for letting me know i am not alone.

dom

]]> By: Beefbone http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-19632 Beefbone Sat, 19 Mar 2011 07:08:23 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-19632 Interesting mod if needed, but it sounds like the troublesome units simply weren't correctly adjusted. My 2004 Forester XT (turbo) hill holder has never given me a problem, and is one of the features I particularly appreciate when some dumb ass stops too close behind me when I'm stopped on a hill. Interesting mod if needed, but it sounds like the troublesome units simply weren’t correctly adjusted. My 2004 Forester XT (turbo) hill holder has never given me a problem, and is one of the features I particularly appreciate when some dumb ass stops too close behind me when I’m stopped on a hill.

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]]> By: Lackhead http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-16983 Lackhead Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:30:54 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-16983 If I remember correctly, Subaru slightly changed their design of the Hill Holder clutch some time ago, so you might have the older version. I read online that the adjustment cable for those was off of the clutch itself, rather than the Hill Holder valve. I know for my new-style HH, disabling it turned my Forester in a real car again, but I don't know much about how the older designs were linked in with the clutch so be careful. That older design was around for quite some time though, so there should be good info to be found. Have you tried digging through Scooby Mods for info on the older-style HH? -c If I remember correctly, Subaru slightly changed their design of the Hill Holder clutch some time ago, so you might have the older version. I read online that the adjustment cable for those was off of the clutch itself, rather than the Hill Holder valve. I know for my new-style HH, disabling it turned my Forester in a real car again, but I don’t know much about how the older designs were linked in with the clutch so be careful. That older design was around for quite some time though, so there should be good info to be found.

Have you tried digging through Scooby Mods for info on the older-style HH?

-c

]]> By: Jon http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-16982 Jon Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:16:21 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-16982 Curious, I had bought a 95 Subaru legacy and right now the hill holder needs replaced because it has failed and now has the wheels locked in place and won't allow me to budge the car. Anybody know if I do disengage the hill holder everything will start working as it is supposed to? Sorry but this is one of the most dumbest features I've seen on a car. Curious, I had bought a 95 Subaru legacy and right now the hill holder needs replaced because it has failed and now has the wheels locked in place and won’t allow me to budge the car.

Anybody know if I do disengage the hill holder everything will start working as it is supposed to? Sorry but this is one of the most dumbest features I’ve seen on a car.

]]> By: Collin http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-16570 Collin Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:23:11 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-16570 Hey thanks for posting this. When I was replacing the clutch in my '91 Legacy, I stumbled across a disconnected hill holder cable. I traced it to the brake master cylinder and was just confused. Now I know what this annoying cable does I won't connect it! Thanks. Hey thanks for posting this. When I was replacing the clutch in my ’91 Legacy, I stumbled across a disconnected hill holder cable. I traced it to the brake master cylinder and was just confused. Now I know what this annoying cable does I won’t connect it! Thanks.

]]> By: Larry http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-16545 Larry Sat, 02 Oct 2010 20:37:20 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-16545 On the turbo model remove the windsheild washer fluid tank........makes it alot easier. On the turbo model remove the windsheild washer fluid tank……..makes it alot easier.

]]> By: biff http://www.lackhead.org/2008/09/disabling-my-subarus-hill-holder-clutch/comment-page-1/#comment-16441 biff Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:30:30 +0000 http://www.lackhead.org/?p=146#comment-16441 This isn't nearly as easy on a newer turbo model. Lots of hoses in the way. This isn’t nearly as easy on a newer turbo model. Lots of hoses in the way.

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